tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post2949741225086943278..comments2023-10-07T07:28:55.729-04:00Comments on Dave Moulton's Bike Blog: A short cycling safety videoDave Moultonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07556183205157714280noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-42809084094781159272008-04-11T17:17:00.000-04:002008-04-11T17:17:00.000-04:00That video is the work of the 'Vehics'. The Vehicu...That video is the work of the 'Vehics'. The Vehicular Cyclists are the Flat Earth Society of the cycling world.<BR/><BR/>Strange, outdated beliefs with little science to back them up.<BR/><BR/>I thought it was satire when I first saw it.Colville-Andersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749740728099129703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-63348010104378736042008-04-11T11:39:00.000-04:002008-04-11T11:39:00.000-04:00Dave, my point was not to rationalize my behavior,...Dave, my point was not to rationalize my behavior, but to point out that, to put it one way, all road users follow only a subset of laws, yet drivers (and pedestrians) don't suffer this loss of credibility you refer to.<BR/><BR/>For me to feel morally obligated to obey what I see as useless laws, I'd have to believe that by doing so I'd benefit someone, perhaps by making it safer for my fellow bicyclists. I find that's a bit of a leap.<BR/><BR/>There's a question here, though. Why are people on bicycles not seen as legitimate? You seem to feel it's about credibility. I feel it's simply volume, or (lower case) critical mass, that will make us join the status quo.<BR/><BR/>Cyclists, even ones running red lights, have more respect in northern Europe because everyone rides one, or has in the past, or their parents did, etc.Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17727373173401574175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-19865038149599672952008-04-09T17:49:00.000-04:002008-04-09T17:49:00.000-04:00Dave,"Well stated!"Should an auto, bus or truck op...Dave,<BR/>"Well stated!"<BR/>Should an auto, bus or truck operator break traffic laws they are typically victorious when interacting with a cyclist.<BR/>Often 'DEAD RIGHT' as regards the cyclist ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-46101125246330263532008-04-09T17:32:00.000-04:002008-04-09T17:32:00.000-04:00Mixed signals: Yes cyclists get respect when they...Mixed signals: Yes cyclists get respect when they act like they belong. However, Brian enters the left lane two streets (ie. blocks) before needing to enter the left turn pocket lane. I suppose "belonging" often requires dominance. <BR/>JackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-31431087546462920662008-04-09T12:41:00.000-04:002008-04-09T12:41:00.000-04:00Jim N,The fact that motorists break the law on a r...Jim N,<BR/><BR/>The fact that motorists break the law on a regular basis does not excuse cyclists from doing the same. <BR/><BR/>The number one argument used against cyclists is that we run red lights and stop signs. If every cyclist stopped these two infractions we would deprive those who voice an opinion against us, this argument. <BR/><BR/>No individual can change the behavior of others, only change their own behavior. As this is a bike blog read by cyclists it is counter productive for me to point the finger at motorists and say, “Look how bad these guys are.” <BR/><BR/>If you are running red lights and stop signs on a regular basis, you might want to consider that it is you that is misguided and not me. Who is doing the greater service to the cycling cause? Me by advocating upholding of the law, or you by breaking it? <BR/><BR/>Dave MDave Moultonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07556183205157714280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-46757555450487480112008-04-09T10:55:00.000-04:002008-04-09T10:55:00.000-04:00Do automobile drivers lose all credibility because...Do automobile drivers lose all credibility because they universally flout speed limits? I'm all for civil disobedience, but I think this is misguided.Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17727373173401574175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18899086.post-63397941799447949372008-04-09T08:42:00.000-04:002008-04-09T08:42:00.000-04:00Now if we can get that video in SPANISH!Now if we can get that video in SPANISH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com